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Edan Amrun
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 Topic: The Sword of Truth KeepPosted: 03 Oct 2008 at 18:56 |
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All Sword of Truth Fans and viewers of the Legend of the Seeker TV Show may unite here ! Seeker Edan and Mother Confessor Arnyn are club presidents
Prelate Miah is our junior officer.
Pics of cover art and from the episodes of the mini-series are welcome as are discussions on the books and mini-series, expectations and hopes as well as comments on the present season of the Legend of the Seeker.
If you like to watch The Legend of the Seeker, click this link HERE and it will take you to the website for the show. Put your zip code in the Go box to the upper right and it'll tell you what station and time and date to catch the show on. ( For me it's saturdays at 10 )
*Debt of Bones
**Wizard's First Rule
Stone of Tears
Blood of teh Fold
Temple of the Winds
Soul of the Fire
Faith of the Fallen
The Pillars of Creation
Naked Empire
Chainfire
Phantom
Confessor
*indicates that this is a prequel...and is very optional, you don't have to read it first, it wasn't even written first.
**indicates that this is the true beginning of the saga and also is the book that the TV series Legend of the Seeker is based on and that will be discussed here.
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Miah
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Yay!! *does first post dance*
*bows deeply to the Seeker and Mother Confessor* I am yours to command. But first may I request we white out any spoilers in case curious new readers are lurking about? And let it be known that I am just starting on the second book, which I rented from the library for three weeks. I intend to make three weeks my finish reading date, so I must pace myself. I find once I start reading I don't want to stop and when I have to I get grumpy...lol. Anyway, should we copy our convo from the other thread? |
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Edan Amrun
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Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 14:37 |
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Yes, we can certainly white out spoilers; I know you yourself are one ! I hope you won't be too tempted to look at them *chuckles* Wow, you're going to finish it in three weeks ? It took me a month to read that one * I think* but I did own my own copy...I own all of them
 ! Yes, do copy our messages from the last thread, Prelate Miah !
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Miah
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Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 16:08 |
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Awww! I want to OWN my own books too!
 Well I will keep searching but I prefer to get them secondhand. Be back in a flash with our convo! *zips out*
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Miah
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Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 16:46 |
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*zips back in*
Sivan asked: Whose Goodkind and what's Wizard's First Rule about? Prelate Miah replied: Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth series takes the reader into a world of wizards, dragons and magic. Wizard's First Rule is the first book of the series and tells of a man who risks his life to save a mysterious lady, who is the only one left of her kind, a Confessor. The main character is Richard Cypher, who grew up in Westland with his father and brother. His mother died in a fire when he was little. His best friend is a Wizard named Zedd, though for years Richard didn't know he was a Wizard. Zedd taught Richard everything about growing up in the woods. Richard was a guide when he saw a woman running from some men on a trail that he knew well. He helped her escape, though they were both caught by the men later. The woman had magic power of her own and with Richard's help was able to disengage the men, killing them all. She told him how she was sent to find this one important Wizard to help stop an evil man (who was also a Wizard) who threatened to take over the world by gaining three magic boxes. Richard decided to help her and later discovered that his friend was the Wizard she was looking for. But not anyone could kill the evil man, known as Darken Rahl. Only the one carrying the Sword of Truth could kill him, that person is known as The Seeker. Richard becomes the Seeker and is so named by Zedd. Richard, the woman and the wizard travel through terrible lands to find the last remaining box before this Rahl gets a hold of it. But even if he had it he needs a book called the Book of Counted Shadows to tell him how and which box to open first, because you can't just open any box or all of them, and you have to have all of them in possession before you can open the right box. They are protected by magic. There are many twists and turns in the tale and along the way Richard learns many valuable life lessons. He learns what the Wizards First Rule is because he uses it against this Darken Rahl. He goes through an incredible journey and endures some very terrible things. The book is well written and I found it intriguing right from the start to the very end. Goodkind gives great description of everything around you, making you feel as if you are right there. He has humorous parts in the story that make you laugh and some parts that make you gasp with horror and disgust. Its a fantasy and in no way did I ever say to myself, "Oh no way! that's stupid!" like some books. No there are no hobbits, dwarves or elves but there are other creatures that are very interesting to discover and learn about. I found his lessons in the book related to real life things that anyone can understand and use. IE: Wizard's First Rule: People are stupid. People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and are so all the easier to fool." It explains more but for now I will leave you this in which to ponder. Wizards First Rule is a story, not a compendium. I won't tell you how it ends because you may just want to find out for yourself  Then Seeker Edan said: *Grins* I'm really glad you enjoyed it, Miah. If you don't know the other Sword of Truth books to read in order here they are are after Wizard's First Rule : Stone of Tears
Blood of the Fold
Temple of the Winds
Soul of the Fire
Faith of the Fallen
The Pillars of Creation
Naked Empire
Chainfire
Phantom
Confessor ( last novel of the series that concludes the epic story of Richard and Khalan )
( Debt of Bones, the prequel to Wizard's First Rule about how the Boundaries came up ) Then Confessor Aryn said: Awesome series. Only have Debt of Bones left to read, and it's right there on my bookshelf. *rubs hands eagerly* I'm just postponing it not to have the series completely finished. *sniff* It's funny - I could never stop reading when I started one of those books, and when it was done it made me all sad cause it meant I was another step closer to the end. LOL. Then the Seeker Edan said: Hehe, I know you think they're great, Arnyn; I remember you and I having a long discussion about it a year ago or so. This is Beren Camlost by the way. I'm postponing it too; I'm reading Phantom really slowly though I am approaching the end. When I'm done with Confessor I'm going to be
bawling for quite a while knowing I'll never read about Cara kicking
tail again or having Richard saying something that awes me into
thinking for an hour....or reading about Zedd wanting something to eat
*tears up even know* or or....oh I should stop before I burst into
tears here in the library *chuckles and wipes his wet eyes*.
You know Sam Raimi and Disney are going to put the Sword
of Truth : Wizard's First Rule as a mini-series for ABC, Arnyn ?
Gosh....with all the adult subject matter they should really save that
for a film and leave Disney out of it...I wonder how they will do
this....Terry Goodkind though will be the screenwriter, by the way.
Debt of Bones I wish was longer *sighs* Then Prelate Miah said: *bites nails* a mini series? Gah! now I must get cable!  I'm glad then that I am only on my second book. I have forsaken all other books on my shelf actually. Not interested in them now... I will be near the local library tomorrow. I think I'll just go in and borrow it rather than look for it in a second hand shop. What creature frightens you the most? and how about that mean woman Denna! Gah! And you men have the audacity to complain how bad you have it!  You'd never survive Denna that's for sure!Then The Seeker Edan said:
And Then we discover Goodkind's Official Site!  Where we learn there is a series being made and is due to come out on TV! Find out about the Series Here! See the awesome Movie Trailer Here! Then Seeker Edan said:
Gahhh
the link isn't working for me *weeps*. I know I can't hear anything on
these college comps until my own at home works but at least I'd be able
to see the footage...I'll keep trying the link, Miah....are you
drooling at Richard ? Kahlan is sooo gorgeous....I always imagined
though Richard and Chase to be a bit stronger and buff and Zedd a
little more older.
But I soooo can't wait for this; I
used to watch Hercules and Xena on tv; Sam Raimi did those shows too so
I know this will be great, especially with Goodkind being heavily
involved. Miah I hope you have cable by November 1st because that's
when the show airs *lol*
Then Prelate Miah said:
Then Seeker Edan said: We can sign up as a member ? lol I didn't know that at all because those pics hit me and I couldn't do anything else except stare agape  ;
does it cost anything to register ? Because if not I will. I would
love to see you draw Kahlan and also the Sword of Truth....*grins* what
about Wizard's Keep ? I think it was in Wizard's First Rule that we
read about it in Aydindril but it's been two years so I've forgotten...
Prelate Miah says:
Seeker Edan says:
I'll probably be....Warren Rahl06 ! *Winks* Warren is an affable wizarding character that appears in the Sword of Truth books starting with the second novel, Stone of Tears. And no, Warren is not a Rahl....I just want that to be my last name on there Then Prelate Miah said: *runs back in* I got it! I got it!!! *hugs borrowed book* This book is even bigger than the last one! and I thought that was long, lol..... not long enough...  So...Warren Rahl eh?....Ooooh speaking of Rahl... (not to give away spoilers or anything) but that discovery at the end WFR blew me away!! And then Seeker Eden says: Yay, yay !! Ohhh, I can't wait til you're a bit into it so we can talk about it. I really like that cover; it should look about fifteen or so years old, the style but I know they're coming out with more covers for them because the series is coming out. Allll the Sword of Truth books range from six hundred
to like eight hundred pages, Miah *chuckles* but I'm glad that the page
count doesn't daunt you like some people. The only thin Sword of Truth book there is is the one that Arnyn is reading, Debt of Bones *nooo, unfortunately Aidie isn't in there
 *, the prequel to Wizard's First Rule....Debt of Bones is like...what, Arnyn, 120 pages ? lol. Warren Rahl 06 will be my name on there when I register there
today yeah and Warren you'll meet in the book you got. That surprise
ending blew me away, too !! Gah, wasn't Darken so evil ? What he did
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Marak RedIron
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Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 19:54 |
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So much hype within this thread...wow! I guess I am going to have to go to the book store now and find them...g, I do hope it will be worth it...lol.
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Miah
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Posted: 05 Oct 2008 at 02:09 |
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If you like LoTR you will like this series Marak, though everyone's tastes vary. Anyway I was checking out the Wiki site about the series and they have Craig Parker named for the actor playing Darken Rahl!!
Craig Parker of course is the actor that played Haldir in LoTR!
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Edan Amrun
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Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 14:25 |
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Marak, you must go to the bookstore pronto ! *Lol* And if you do like Wizard's First Rule I'd send you a care package with the whole saga for Christmas, bro, seriously
! I hope we will see your comments soon about it, I do think you'll enjoy it, buddy. Then we'll make you Seeker Marak on the list *lol* and I'll put myself as First Wizard *chuckles*
What...Haldir as Darken Rahl, Miah ? I know he's a handsome dude and all and can kick butt in a fight but there's no evil spark in him at all, I think...well, then again he did play a good elf so *lol*. Let's hope he can play the sinister Rahl well. By the way, the guy who's playing Chase was some guy in the prequel Star Wars movies; I think it's Captain Typho who was Padme's bodyguard in Episodes II, III.
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Edan Amrun
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Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 14:33 |
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And Marak...I need to tell you...there are very few fantasy creatures in the Sword of Truth, for instance no dwarves or elves though there are monsters and this being called a Confessor....in fact the Confessor is second major character, Kahlan Amnell.
A Confessor was created by Wizards to make an evil person tell the truth about something; all it takes is a touch and not only will they tell the Confessor the truth but they also fall into a deep affection for her...which is why they tell the whole truth. But yeah...the enemy in the series is Man itself, an evil empire that wants to conquer the world.
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Miah
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Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 04:56 |
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No, Craig Parker has played a bad guy before. I can't wait to see his get up! So after Marak reads the first book he will be the Seeker? cool! but what is a Prelate again? one in training? training as Confessor? I could be a Mord Sith
 like Denna and wup you all....hehehehe... Ouch! Nah...I don't know, I don't think I could be that mean...but then some men....hmmm.... *gets ideas*Oh that little princess was evil eh Bear? What did you think of the other wizard Giller? |
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Edan Amrun
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Posted: 07 Oct 2008 at 13:36 |
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You're probably a better Mord-Sith than you would be the Prelate *chuckles*. You'll meet her in the book; she's looks over the Citadel of Light in the Old World where they train wizards. You have a dark side, Miah *lol*.
I hate Violet and I'm glad Richard gave her what-for ! You'll see her again down the road *grins*. Giller was a real nice guy and I love Rachel ( "Get in the box." "What ?" "I said get in the box !"
 ), she is so adorable and I wish she was in the series more *sighs and shakes his head* and Chase, too. |
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Miah
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Posted: 29 Oct 2008 at 21:28 |
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Notable Differences from the book:
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Edan Amrun
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*Mouth drops* Whoa, you're saying Darken's hair is black in the series ? Geeze...they probably did that to more deeply portray his evilness; I rather it be blonde like in the book, there's nothing like a handsome or fair evil person ( Just wait til you get to Nicci, Naira ). Yeah, Terry said he was going to keep George around for a while in the beginning so we can see him getting the book....but I guess now they rearranged it so Kahlan can bring it to him...I wonder how they'll fit in George....I wonder if they will even write him off in the show.
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Miah
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Posted: 30 Oct 2008 at 20:26 |
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I just hope I can get my sis to tape each episode for me. The thought of missing out really irks me And how queer is this? Stephen Tolkin is one of the writers for this particular episode
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Miah
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Posted: 30 Oct 2008 at 20:34 |
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Wizard's First Rule: "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true."
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Edan Amrun
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Ahhh, see, they had a good start but stopped at the book part
 ! I'll enjoy seeing Kahlan reach Richard's place. Stephen Tolkien or Tolkin ? lol a relative ? I'll get my Stone of Tears books tomorrow and put up the second rule.
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Miah
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Posted: 31 Oct 2008 at 15:29 |
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Tolkin (no relation) And I had to take my book back to the library...erm, think I will just buy it and avoid all the late charges |
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Edan Amrun
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That's what I'm saying lol that's what I had to do, and I didn't regret it; that series is one that you would want to keep for your own library at home, Miah. *Nudges* If you'd like, I'd send you a care package of them all ( the ones after Stone of Tears since you'll be buying that sure enough ) if you'd like, my Christmas present to you, especially since I can't hang out with you this year for the holiday.
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Edan Amrun
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*Sighs* It starts playing just as I finish work, Miah, tonight...I'm going to have my mom record it for me; I'll probaby miss an hour of it...gosh I hope she can tape it for me. Look HERE for showtimes; just put in your zip, Miah, and it'll tell you when it plays on ABC. |
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Miah
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Oooh! thanks. I hope I can get my sister to tape the episodes for me. This series is going to be the only thing I watch on tv!
 And yup, going to be building up that library. So far I have the first one and the last one (found at second hand stores for like 10 cents, lol) |
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Edan Amrun
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Believe me, besides watching country music videos and stuff on the history channel, it'll be the only thing i watch on tv, too. Confessor was at a second hand store for ten cents ??? OMG !!!! *mouth falls open*. |
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Miah
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Posted: 01 Nov 2008 at 15:22 |
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Actually it was Phantom, the one you are reading now. Today I must go out and get Stone of Tears, I was just starting it.
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Edan Amrun
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Ahhh, Phantom is the novel just before the last books of the series Confessor.....you know, I'll go quickly add the book titles to the OP for you and other new readers ! *rushes*
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Edan Amrun
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Soooooo, did anyone see the pilot ? |
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Miah
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Well you know I didn't cuz I don't have cable tv. I'm hoping my sis taped it for me
How long was it? I hope not just 30mins.I see you updated the image at the top *points* Oooooh Kahlan's dress is nice eh Edan/Beren? I hope nothing falls out! Richard has nice arms...  I can't wait to see this series. |
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Oohhh, it was a two-hour pilot, Naira ! lol Two hours ! It'll come back again on sunday at ten i believe, have to check that site again where we put in our zip code; i'll add that to the OP.
Ohhhh, I just couldn't resist putting thir pics up ( I could have from Faith of the Fallen book cover but I thought it would be better if i showed Kahlan and Richard in flesh and blood ). Kahlan is such a babe, she's one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen *Long whistle* and I hope something falls out
but since this is ABC I don't think we'll be seeing very restricted steaminess between Richard and Kahlan. I'm very happy with the woman who plays her - she's very much like Kahlan. I don't know how you will feel the slow motion for the battle scenes, Miah....I know I don't like a lot of slow motion when it comes to fighting scenes, but that's just me, but they have a lot of them in the series it looks like.
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Miah
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Beren!  Now we must Party! Hmm...slow motion fighting? well guess I won't know for sure until I see it. TWO hours?! Whoooo Hoooo!   |
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We'll be partying more once you see it lol *chugs down some mead and blows fireworks in the sky* You are going to love the gars though I always imagined them bigger.
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I have seen the trailors already and zipcodes don't work, they are meant for the USA. Would be lovely if the series were displayed on the site, than other ppl in the world could watch them as well. Not able to watch is not fun and irritates.
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Miah
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Yeah Beren!
 Canadians don't have ZiP codes, we have Postal Codes (which is a combo of letters and numbers) But, luckily, we do get ABC channel *whew*
I'm sorry for those who can't see this show. *hugs Aikari* Tiana would really like to watch it too but she can't!
 I think I will go to Goodkind's site and ask him when and if the series will be made for those on thither shores. |
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Edan Amrun
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Posted: 06 Nov 2008 at 14:37 |
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Eeek ! I didn't know, Aikari ; I hope Miah will be able to get some feedback from the Goodkind site so that you and Ti and she.
*Hugs Miah* I should have remembered that, once having a Canadian girlfriend *chuckles*. Make you sure you tell us what you find out, m'dear !
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Oooh, been watching the series and despite some minor things I still think its a good entertaining show.
I read the first book and it was wonderful! I can't wait to get the second book, I get really absorbed in it. I love the characters, the world they live in and all the cute and nasty creatures!
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Edan Amrun
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Naira, I have been working so late into Saturday night, I haven't been able to keep real watch
; I catch a few episodes now and then but I really dont' know what's going on lol. It looks really good though. When do you think you can read the second book ? *Would so send her it*
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OMG!!!!! yea, im reading the books still kinda stuck on the *boring* book(soul of the fire) so ive been told. I did end up watching every show so far in the series and wasn't impressed with some of the things they did with it but heh, why should i be grumpy about it, still an awesome series.
Servy on the other hand doesn't like it that much anymore i don't think since they changed so much of it. Everytime i watch an episode with her around all i hear is grumbling and 'WHAAAT'. It gets rather entertaining to see how she reacts to some of their changes . I just can't believe you guys made a thread about this |
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Bah, im not deleting my post and i forgot i can't edit it anymore lol. Also Aikari if no one has given you any help on the topic you can check out a website called Ninjavideo.net, that is where i watch the episodes i've missed on tv. now they do have other stuff ont here too and it depends on your own personal opinion, some wouldn't liek the site, others don't care. I personally am one who doesn't care lol.
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wow, I didnt know there was a TV show of my favorite book-series too!
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